Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

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Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

Postby Peter1469 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:45 pm

Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

The Middle East is a mess. The Western solution starting with Sykes-Picot began to crumble with the Arab Spring. The sectarian and tribal conflicts are impossible to manage without a strong autocrat.

I predict Mosul is liberated from ISIL. Then a war between the Kurds, the Shia, the Sunnis, to include Turkey and Iran will erupt over time.

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Clear divisions have emerged between Iraqi and Kurdish leaders over territorial control after the recapture of Mosul, even though the battle for ISIL's last stronghold in Iraq is far from over as it enters its second month.

Backed by US-led coalition air strikes, Iraqi forces launched a massive operation to retake the northern city on October 17, with Kurdish Peshmerga fighters also playing a major role in the offensive.

The military push has seen the autonomous Kurdistan region gain or solidify control over swaths of disputed territory in northern Iraq.

And in recent days, Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani and Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi have given contrasting interpretations of understandings on who will control territory in the Mosul area after the city is retaken.

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Re: Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

Postby valleyranch » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:04 pm

Most of the kurds are sunni, almost 100% as are the Turks. Iran is shia, most of the Sunni in Iran are Kurds.

The Turks used the Kurds who helped them in the Armenian Genocide.

The Turks do not want there to be a Krudistan. The Kurds would like a kurdistan out of Western Armenia, now much of Turkey, or Iraq and Syria.

Many in the west are fond of the Kurds because they are at this time fighting groups we consider enemy. This is only temporary, any of these will be our enemy when the time is right.

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Re: Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

Postby Peter1469 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:32 am

I never heard of the Kurds until Operation Desert Storm.

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Re: Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

Postby valleyranch » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:27 pm

Most people hadn't. They're a large band of Muslims that came with the Muslim invasion, they aren't considered exactly Turkic, but worked hand in hand with the turks at times. There dealing with the Turk today is one band of thieves against another.

I was against Desert Storm from the start, not because Sadam didn't need his teeth kicked in for attacking one of our ships (which Israel did as well!) but we, with the eventual election of an Democratic President, would not have the staying power and would leave thousands upon thousands of Christians in the crap.
You know they, the Muslims, lump us all together as Gavors, even the liberal bastards we argue with from time to time, they consider Christians, unless one is a Jew. Any one who doesn't think that's funny shouldn't waste their money on college.

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Re: Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

Postby Donttread » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:37 pm

Peter1469 wrote:Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

The Middle East is a mess. The Western solution starting with Sykes-Picot began to crumble with the Arab Spring. The sectarian and tribal conflicts are impossible to manage without a strong autocrat.

I predict Mosul is liberated from ISIL. Then a war between the Kurds, the Shia, the Sunnis, to include Turkey and Iran will erupt over time.

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Clear divisions have emerged between Iraqi and Kurdish leaders over territorial control after the recapture of Mosul, even though the battle for ISIL's last stronghold in Iraq is far from over as it enters its second month.

Backed by US-led coalition air strikes, Iraqi forces launched a massive operation to retake the northern city on October 17, with Kurdish Peshmerga fighters also playing a major role in the offensive.

The military push has seen the autonomous Kurdistan region gain or solidify control over swaths of disputed territory in northern Iraq.

And in recent days, Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani and Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi have given contrasting interpretations of understandings on who will control territory in the Mosul area after the city is retaken.

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The Neocons insist on massive Western support- but I ask and have not be answered: to what end?


And yet we keep arming them and stiring the shit stick and getting our kids killed for an unwinnable situation. Borderline negliant homocide if you ask me.

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Re: Baghdad, Kurds at odds over control of post-ISIL Mosul

Postby Peter1469 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:53 pm

The Shia are making moves that will only increase conflict after the IS is defeated.


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